What do YOU think about Jehovah's Witnesses
using online dating and Singles match-up services?
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Hmmmm,Jw dating sites,well i suppose this beats the heck out of 'trolling' at the district conventions. Cast your net for your mystery 'catch'.A good way to meet dysfunctional creeps like yourself.sign me,hard up desperado
I've logged on to some they we're the sitcom of sleaze the only thing missing was the wacky gay neighbor some s**t just can't be made up
Excellent! I have been a lurker on JWD for two and one-half years. If I had access to this kind of service when I was younger, I would probably have met a Mavrick, a Valis, an Onacruse, a Randy, a Simon or some of the other great minds that I never had the privilege or pleasure of meeting in my 40+ years of imprisonment.
As long as JW dating sites are not controlled by elders, yes ... go ahead, you, young ones. Enjoy your life, and enjoy living it to the full! May God bless you.
Win lose or draw,even losers need a place to go.Your best bet may be to meet/chat on the apostate sites,that way you won't have to worry about your mate 'turning apostate'.{if i'am an elder do i still get the perk to rob the cradle?}
I married a sister who I met online four years ago, thought it was not on a dating website - rather it was a forum. No one gave us any trouble. Though, some problems can occur when elders get involved and need references on you/your spouse to be. This topic was very briefly mentioned at the district convention last year, under "Beware the Voice of Strangers." I have yet to read anything in WT or Young People Ask magazines about this topic - no doubt it will happen.
I am currently one of Jehovahs Witnesses, and am leaving the religion. Nothing surprises me anymore. I can tell you, there are no suitable men in my congregation. They are all complete jerks, so I dont blame the sisters for going online to try to meet someone. I wouldnt be surprised either, if married men and Elders were there looking for something on the side. Maybe even "cybering" to make up for what they are not getting at home. They are all so sexually repressed anyhow. My question is, will the dishonest single Elder use congregation donations to pay for his trip to fly out and meet a sister cross country? Who knows. I put nothing past these people anymore.
I've been using the online dating services for about 2 months. I'm LOVING EVERY CYBER MOMENT!!!! I have no intentions of stopping.. regardless of what anyone says. It's so refreshing to chat without anyone breathing down your neck.
I think it's a bad idea. If you already have problems communicating with someone in person how is a dating service going to make things better. Too many secrets can be built up between people in person, behind a screen it could be even worse.
I am looking at all these comments and I am laughing. I can't believe how many people are so mentally and emotionally disgruntled. If you are having problems with others, then perhaps the problem is not "out there". Maybe, just maybe the problem might be within..ya think? If you are lonely, then please don't take it out on the brothers or the organization. They are there for you protection. If they are some sort of advesary, then it's because your wierd little psycho mind makes it that way. Ask yourself this honest question: Are Jehovah's Witnesses the only people I ever come in conflict with? If the answer is honestly "no" then you will be sure to find out where the problem lies. May Jehovah have mercy on your soul.
Surely the dangers are no different for this as there are for any other chat room - how do you know who you're speaking to is who they're saying they are? Being single may suck - but it's worse to be stuck with the wrong person. Says she who just looked up "Jehovah's Witnesses Dating" on google.......
Thank you very much for this enlightenment.We as Jehovah's servant must be wise mostly in using internet. Prov. 27:11 Be wise my son...We know we are in this last days so we must be wise.Instead of spending time in surfing internet about matching services we are encourage in our meetings to spend more time in Studying the Bible's and other Watchtower publications in which make our heart guarded from Satans machinations. As we study in our Watchtower Feb.1, 2004 we must buy out our opportune as we know the days are wicked and also the appointed time of the nations begins in 1914 and the last days begin and we know that our days is like in Noahs' day. we must only log-on in watchtower.org becuase this is only the legalwebsite of the Watchtower and Bible Tract Society. Thank you very much. Judy from the Philippines
Whatever is in an individuals heart will come out in time. I've noticed shocking comments that come from those who will like to discredit Jehovah,s organization. We who are sincere try to widen out by using the internet, among a pack of wolves.Dont let fleshly tendency cloud our good judgement and resolve to stick to Bible principles in selecting a mate. May Jehovah help the ignorant,the unfaithful, and the impatient.(PS..."love...does not behave indecently,does not look for its own interest." 1 Cor.13:4,5) from a brother in KCMO please comment as if Jehovah and his son, Jesus were standing over your head listening to your mind and heart, please upbuild do not attack. If it is other than that keep in mind those ancient murmerers.
I think it is a great idea ! Although the general thoughts amoung Jehovah's Witnesses is that it is bad and is strongly discouraged. Not the way to do things as you don't really know if they are really JW's and you could fall away. Which is true but if you think about it the average witness goes to 3 meetings a week and witnessing once a week that's if they have it together it doesn't really give them much time to meet alot of people and develop connections especially if they are new in the area. My personal experiences are that I have meet some really interesting witneses online that I have meet in person and still are friends with. Without the internet I know I wouldn't have really known who they really were. And to those other comments that people have made about that relationships are not important as living for the kingdom. I really think they need to come back to reality. It's not very balanced to be obsessed about the kingdom without looking after your personal needs as well. You must follow your dreams as well ! Flying Ace - Australia
no problem
I have no comment about the sites, what I do want to say is that you are very mistaken in a lot of your insinuations, and claims as to both the Watchtower Organization, & Its Elder arrangement which I do not think is fair to misrepresent them. It is apparent you attempt to discredit as often as possible, which makes me question your motive, which appears to be one of trying to damage the reputation of an organization, and its members, with untruths in many cases, in which you have no FACTS to support your claims,, 1. example when talking about the elders sneaking in people's yards, tapping phones, peeping in windows!!! Please,, you obviously haven't a clue about this organization! They don't have to resort to those things, because they serve a God who reveals the truth in all things, in his own timetable, they trust & respect his arrangement, and now one no matter what he is doing will escape the eyesight of our creator. So why should they resort to those sorts of things, when they know the creator is looking on, & will render to each his due, there is no covering over wrongdoing, it always comes to light in time, many times ones expose themselves by their choices, and actions, and truth comes to light., elders don't go hunting people down, thats a very incorrect misconception. & Whenever an error does come to light, it is addressed in a spirit of love and readjustment for the erring one, if at all possible. You are biased in your opinion,, and it would behoove you to do more research if you are going to comment on someone, or an organization, you need to get your facts straight, and not allow your bias to cause you to make false statements, which, In Many Cases, you have absolutely No Facts to support your claims.
I really don't have words to express my appreciation for such an invaluable asset this website is.It has gone a long way to help in uniting people of all works of life who are serving jehovah God wholesoully.May the almighty God bless all the efforts that r been put together to make the developement of this website a success.
wholesoully - what a fascinating word. Where did you read it? ROFL
I really don't think it's a good idea
I THINK IT WOULD BE OF IF THEY ARE BOTH jEHOVAH WITNESSED
I think they are good people and they shouldn't be judge be the religion
Having been a witness my entire life and studying all angles from those who support us and those who apose us, and label the witnesses as control freeks and extremists... I have this to say. Knowledge is good and yes all things should be examined in the light, and through this process I have lost any fuzzy edges from my preceptionss of God, religion, and my purpose in life. The bible is a book of guidelines and principles that allow for all who wish to become spokespersons for the salvation and establishment of Gods name - Jehovah Gods ultimate purpose, the sanctification of his name, which he has blessed many for there efforts in upholding and left warnings and death for those who besmirch his name... And that is why the society on a whole is so concerned - it bears Gods name - would you like to answer directly to God (as being one in position of oversight) because you didnt care what those who profes to be witnesses were doing... People are people and will regretably do wrong things and others will always over react to things, but in the end being over-cautious never hurt anyone - it may crimp our fun, but there are worse things Now there may be some of you reading this or entering into these discusions who dont even believe in God and for the life of me I dont know why you are, why would you want to strip someone of a belief and a hope through pointless circular arguments and bickerings simply because YOU dont believe and dont thinlk it is right that others should Yes before you say it, we do the exact oposite, (Trying to help people believe) but we do it because Gods son asked us to, not because we disagree with you not believing, or believing in your own way - that is your choice, this is ours. Thank you Alex B. UK
HAVE BEEN A BAPTIZED WITNESS SINCE I WAS 17 YRS OLD. LOST MY WIFE SOME TIME AGO DUE TO A STROKE. COUKD NEVER FIND NOBODY TO TAKE HER PLACE. I DID PRAY ON IT AND CAME UP WITH A SITE CALLED PARTNERS IN THE TRUTH. NOW THEY HAVE SOME GOOD SISTERS ON THAT SITE. SURE THEY CHARGE MONEY BUT THE HAVE THE BEST SERIOUS SISTERS OF ANY OTHER SITE ON THE INTERNET. I DID TRY OUT THE OTHER ONES BUT GOT NO RESULTS. I AM AMEMBER NOW AND AM TALKING ON THE TEL. TO 2 DIFFERENT MARRIAGE POSSIBILITIES ALREADY. THEY KNOW HOW TO HELP OUT A BROTHER. I ALSO SENT MY COUSIN WHO IS DIVORCED TO THE PARTNERS SITE AND HE LIKE THAT ONE TO.
Of all the others sites free or not, Partners in The truth charges but their site seems to attract the more marriage minded Witnesses.
I breifly thought about this idea and thought it would be safe ONLY IF it was a website completly controlled by the WTS only for JW's. Security would be the main factor. The only people allowed on the service would be ones approved by the congregation elders which would then forward this info about a publisher to headquarters who then would assign you a userID. If you fall out of exemplary status, then you loose your online privleges on the service. again this is only an idea i thought up. (id love helping build the site) I dont know how the WTS feels about this. Just thought id comment.
i really have to wonder why a brother would need to try those when there are more sisters than brothers. perhaps the enormus amount of attention they get isnt enough.
If there are so many sister where do we find the time to meet them all if we are only to meet them at the Hall or through friends ??? Flying Ace
I think it's great.
I studied with Jehovahs Witnesses for years and though never baptised, brought my mother and sister in (truth). My first wife died and am now going through a divorce with my second wife because of my beliefs. I would like to find someone that has nearly the same beliefs as I do. I know I should be looking within the hall but hate to think how long it would take me to find someone...
My brother is getting married to a woman that he met on a witness site, and he has never been more happier. Although I belive in being cautous about everyone that you meet wether they claim to be a witness or not..I would encourage that individual to go to the other persons Kingdom Hhall, and talk to the elders. We (as Jehovahs witnesses) give the benafit of the doubt to our own because we are a spiritual family. We are the only religon that is as peaceful, loving and similar minded, and this is the truth. I will pray for all of you that go on this site as well as any others that have talked bad about The one true God, and his beloved son. Just as Jesus said, "Just as they hated me, they will hate you too" And to all of my brothers and sisters across the world, I love you all, and may Jehovah bless your efforts.
i think that there is no reason for the dating service that we have. I feel that you should know the person first and NOT meet them online
As one of Jehovah's Witnesses it truly hurts my heart to see how offensive and clueless people in this system of things are. We must remember that we were forewarned that this world would hate us, just as it hate Jesus. The Bible and organization does not tell us what to do, they do not condenm nor condone going on these websites. They do, however, remind us that it is based on our conscious. Hopefully we have trained our conscious with Bible principles to do only what is acceptable to God. The question is this, what are your intentions with visiting these sites? Witnesses do not view the "dating scene" the same as the world does. We do not date to satisfy physical cravings, we do not date to explore what is out there, we do not date just for fun. A TRUE witness dates for one reason, to find a mate for life, a companion to serve Jehovah with together into the new system. Of course, there are those out there that claim to be witnesses, when in fact they have been living with one foot in and one foot out. Those are the ones that poison websites that were originally intened to do good. For them, dating is not taken seriously and is merely a game. For you that are out there, take note...shame on you. If you call yourself a Witness, make sure that your actions match that of which a witness should be. In all you do, honor our Jehovah God. This is specially important when it comes to dating and marriage. Remember this is an arrangement that Jehovah himself established. If you are truly looking for a spouse, then by all means, go find that spouse. Just be careful and catious. If not, then there is no reason to be on these websites. I hope this reaches whomever reads it. If you would like more information or a free home Bible study, please do not hesitate to visit your local christian congregation on Jehovah's Witnesses. I am more than sure that there would be someone ready to welcome you. Thanks, Elisa.
For ANY OF YOU who are supportive of anything that the Sovereign Lord and His Son views as a danger, then as Jesus has well stated, the truth has not taken any root in the heart. Everyone needs to be conscious of this: Satan and his angels care about none of us, either in the truth or the world and his goal is to see off the human family, every last one of us. If you are leaving the truth, ask yourself, "Why am I leaving? Is it because of something that Jehovah has done to me or a man? Is it because i can't find a mate? Why am i not attracting one?" Please do not involve Jehovah nor Jesus in any of these things. And do not blemish Jehovah's name. Each and every last one of us without a shadow of a doubt will have to render an account to the Supreme Court, to Jehovah God and that time is nearing like never before. If you are looking for a mate, then do it on your own time and privacy and do not involve God's name in this nor members of the congregation. That is a matter you take up between you and your God. Jehovah and Jesus has done nothing to deserve some of these comments, except be extremely patient with all of us more than it is deserved. But there is a price to pay and some of us, as the Scriptures has promised, will pay.
I think if one was very careful it could be a helpful tool. It is too bad that we live in a world where we can not trust those around us, adn this would include those claiming to be fellow believers.
I think its the best solution for many of us. All of us desire companionship. Many times because of our congregation location or assembly circuit, we are not able to find a suitable companion, united in the same mind of thought.
It kills me that the only ones that have anything to say regarding this topic are the ones opposed to the truth. If you want an answer of substance on thist opic you might want to read the societies information regarding internet usage. The warnings would definitely apply to this topic as well. The society can't be responsible for your every day decisions that has to be done by you with Jehovahs guidance. If you make the right decisions you will know it, and if you make the wrong one, you will know that too!!!
Although i am not a Jehovah's witness(many of them are my friends), but i know that the 'society' as they call their leaders are not in support of it. It is not bad to date other JWs online but my fear is that people might pretend to be JWs and use such mediums(online dating and Singles match-up services) to draw some innocent youths away from their organization as some examples as shown. I must repeat that the 'society' has nothing to do with the sites because they frequently warn their members against the unwise use of the internet. I strongly hold to the believe that they are not stepping on anybody's toes. They are peace loving people and should be left to do what they think is right to do.
OK ,here are some true facts.I have been a Jehovahs witness for over 30 years, yes there are problems. the men are control freeks the elders really do spy on people. I have been asked to do it to a sister myself by an elder.some do swap wive , some do a lot of bad things that I won't talk about....but I guess that proves they are human and some people need to be controlled by an organization the brothers are great at that...BIG BROTHER THAT IS! hAHAHAHAH WHAT A JOKE.....GETTING TO KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS ONLINE COULD BE FUN BUT LIKE EVERTHING ,,,BE CARE FULL
It is true that on the internet, you don't fully know just WHO you are talking to. However, Witness dating sites at least have a way of screening those that want to become a part of the site. However, this is not enough. Just because a person knows the song for the service meeting specified doesn't mean that they are spiritually minded or who are who they say they are. When corresponding to those through the internet it is wise to of course use extreme caution. How about this idea?...Talk about spiritual things when corresponding. You can see what their level of attentiveness is in the meetings and can weed out some of the ones that are "fair weather witnesses". I have seen many non-Witnesses and Witnesses alike posting messages here and there are many things that get exagerated about the organization. When a Witness wrongs a non-Witness..it will be amplified 100 times. Witnesses are not perfect people and don't claim to be. That is why we need guidance from above! My opinion about using an internet site to meet people could be a good thing, but strong caution needs to be exercised. I have a really good friend who is single and goes on the site. I see how he communicates with others and sees that he exercises caution when talking to those on the internet. He is a well-balanced individual who is fully devoted to his faith and has high goals in the organization to serve more such as being a circuit overseer. I have never seen such a loving (including loving discipline that isn't pleasant at first but produces good fruits - Hebrews 12:11) All opposers out there...don't take isolated "bad" experiences from the organization and cast them in a bad light. I have been on both sides of the fence and have never felt more secure within the organization! I am the happiest that I have ever been in my life!
singles sites are really cool, after all, most sisters nowadays have a serious attitude problem anyway, and how else can you contact sisters if it wasn´t for the various singles websites? Even though many will only ask you for a photo and then just disappear, thinking to themselves "later loser" I guess no matter how you look at it, if you´re not super handsome, popular, and an absolute insider, getting married is just a dream and a fantasy, and not reality.
It's so so true. Sisters expectations are way to high, hence the large population of single witnesses, since the majority of us brothers can't meet their perfectionist standards. Flying Ace
I think as a Jehovah's Witness and baptise witness. We are brothers and sisters inrespective from where you come from, so having online chat with may be considered bad and to think of it, paying to chat with your fellow christian friend is rediclious. Instead when you want to meet your christain brothers and sister, why not attend any convention both international and local.
June 23,2004 Time 2:21 a.m I was raised in the truth, almost married my high school sweethear (also a witness), we broke up about a month shy of our wedding date. We dated for over seven years, we kept our relationship chaste and were very supervised at all times. Long story short we never tied the knot and I was crushed. Many many (single) years later I met my husband who is an unbeliever. I told him from the minute I met him that we could not commit immorality, but yet I did date him. He is a wonderful man, and a beautiful person who happens to just not know "Jehovah our god." What I am trying toget across is that if I had had a website at the time to turn to I'm sure I wouldn't have married outside the organization. I did the whole witness party scene, gatherings, visiting kingdom halls etc... There were just no bros. available. The ones that were available were a)weird b) Jerks c)thought very highly of themselves. I believe if you use caution and pray on the matter you may just very well find a wonderful mate through this channel. Although I made a decison to marry out of the lord I am not advocating this. I happened to come across a wonderful person and he respects my beliefs however this is a major "taboo" for us and we all know it. If you can find a worshipper of Jehovah on the web whowishes to marry then nothing but "kudos to you."
Its OK many have got married through it. May be itwould work for me.
Why do most people use a dating service. I believe in dating the old-fashioned way. Meeting the "One" by chance. People make dating so complicated nowadays. Dating should be fun. Go back to old way. Even if you are a Jehovah's Witness
I don't use online dating services/chat rooms/etc. What's my key to all my friendships, you ask? It's by getting involved more in the local congregation and the world wide organization. I've met so many people, and thanks to Pioneering and the Ministry School book I've learned how to reach out and show interest in other people instead of only thinking about myself like I used to do. All the people here that complain about people in the organization are idiots, seeing how we're all imperfect and we--ourselves--need to take the active first step in getting along with one another. Grow up you people--both spritually and mentally. That's your problem.
Instead of the internet to find a mate, I rely on Jehovah's help. The "Society," as some of you like to call it so affectionatly, constantly gives us fine council from God's Word to help us all become mature christians and capable marraige partners. I've been trying to apply the council in the Bible and I pray for Jehovah to help me find someone that is doing the exact same thing. All of you guys that have had bad romance situations in the past probably haven't been doing this. Either you're not as spiritual as you think you are, or you're constantly looking for love in people that arn't really spiritual individuals. Jehovah knows what we need. Rely on him and put forth some effort to improve yourself and he will not let you down. :)
This summer's convention has a very nice talk on this subject. Perhaps if you don't know what to think when it comes to this topic you could go to one of these spiritually upbuilding conventions held throughout the world and actually pay attention to what is said instead of going koo-koo for all the sisters walking around. If there's one thing I've come to find out, it's this: real spiritual individuals are attracted to real spiritual individuals. If you're more concerned with the spiritual food given to us and getting involved in spiritual activities, then a fine sister will practically fall in your lap. If you run around looking desperate for companionship, then those same fine sisters will just feel sorry for you. Keep busy in kingdom activities and fellowship with real people (opposed to internet people) and Jehovah will bless your patience.
it is like anywhere. you must be mindful to keep on the watch and to make Jehovah proud in all you do, no matter where and how you meet someone...
I think it's a great idea. We are people too in search of intimacy.
Jehovah witnesses do not set up dating and singles match up services so every body who believed this its not true. we are kind and do not do bad things like this!
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I agree with the other publisher - YOU are most likely the one with an attitude problem if you do not love such wonderful people. NAME ONE other group of Christians that is closer to walking in Jesus' footsteps than Jehovah's Witnesses. PLEASE OTHER FAITHFUL WITNESSES!! Quit reading such negativity - there is already enough pressure for each of us to deal with. May you all thank Jehovah for his patience and loving kindness - it is sad that those of us who love God must listen to you ungrateful brats. I am all for SCREENED and PRE-QUALIFIED JW dating sites. I would rather be in my seat listening to talks than cruisin' the halls..
I heard one online dating story about a lady that created a computer-generated video image of a girl and pretended that it was really her. How sick. It just goes to show that on the internet you absolutly have no idea who you are talking to. Stick with the old fashioned method of leaving the computer(gasp!) and socializing with other witnesses. I've emailed and instant messaged witnesses before but I don't do that any more because you can't have a real relationship that way. I meet my friends in person--no exceptions. Plus the brothers have warned us about online dating services. Obviously there have been cases where bad things have happened and the brothers have seen the need to warn all of us about this growing problem. Also, here's a thought: If you're lonely and can't find a suitable person out there, try working at improving your relationship with Jehovah. We're too close to the end to get caught up in mundane stupidities. Maybe Jehovah is trying to tell you that you'd be better off single when the Great Tribulation comes.
It just amazes me how people get trapped in these things obviously your powers of perception are not trained you all need to get a grip on the real life those who critisize the Christian congregation have no idea what teir doing and are setting themselves for the second death in other words GET A LIFE!
I think it's a good idea.
Well, it's just been stated at the Walk With God District Convention to avoid online dating services. Question answered. That being said, people will do what they want, regardless of the direction we are given. Granted, it's a personal decision. Just be careful. I married someone I met off the internet. Not an online dating site or chat room, but through plain old AOL. We started off as email buddies, now we're 'til death do us part. Couldn't be happier.
obviously the society is strongly against internet dating sites as they have no control over it. I think all those people that constantly bag all these sites are out of touch and need to make their own decisions for once in their lives. There is nothing wrong with online dating sites, as with everything you just have to be carefull and use common sense - Flying Ace !
I thnk what we need are more ex-jw 'apostate' dating sites. That way we won't have to worry about your mate 'turning apostate' your's;http://www.DannyHaszard.com
This is not the way to get real partners: some one that you are gonig to spend time with. i don't belive that brothers and sisters are using dating services online. because they KNOW that it is harmfull to their sprtuiality.
I am a member of one of these sites.(JW-connections.com)This summer 2004 there was held a talk where brother warned about those dangerous sites.If you think about dating via internet in general you allways are in a risk to become missleaded no matter if it is e-mail, messanger or whatever tool.So there was a sound point.Still it is ridiculous to control over adult people and our surfing habits.I think the ideology of society hin this cadse is absurd.I have some nice contacts and they are not"apostates".
Well if you've attented the district convention you would obviously know that this is disapproved by the organization. If your looking for some person to date so bad that you'll go online and talk to people you don't know then Jehovah is not in your life (and you are pretty desperate, needless to say). So really, if you're wondering whether these web-dating sites are appropriate then why don't you ask the nearest elder? I'm sure they'll tell you what you need to know... dating sites are not acceptable to Jehovah and you should get your priorities straight.
I have heard people say something good about something that' really wonderful and I have also heard ppl criticize and underate something that could change lives for good. I am a MEMBER OF JW. I must let you know momentarily that all these technology depends on the user itself. You can use this service courteously to your advantage or you can make the devil out of yourself with it. JW ARE ppl. They are regular individuals of various talents but one belief system based on the bible. So if you have any hidden agenda in subscribing to this service knock yourself-out.
its just ok for me. it can help to those who's looking for someone in the same faith which cannot find their match at their locality.
yeah I thing witnesses should be able to do this. I'm not a witness but study off and on and have tried so called other christian sites and the majority aren't christian like they claim (I"m talking about bornagains not witnesses)so I'm jsut more convinced that witnesses are better.
we are six million strong how many are single and what age groups they are i dont know but by submitting your profile online gives you better exposure to more people jw's that is (e.g. your territory you leave in covers say about 5-10 mile radius. the congregation you attend on the average have say 5-8 singles with varying age .. just because you attend that congregation doesn't mean you are compatible within that group.. how many congregations would you have to attend with half an hour before and half an hour after meeting could you find your match. simple statistics says it is not going to happen. issac servant traveled a great distance for rebecca, therefore it is no great feat to meet brothers and sisters world wide i have no problem with this method of meeting the friends. but caution is in order the screening process is imperative. i face reality i'd rather a thousand brothers see my profile and decide than to be disgruntled with what's available within a 5-10 mile radius of the kingdom hall..the need to love and to be loved cannot be extinguished even among god's people.. agape
Meeting someone is meeting someone. A chance encounter is a chance encounter- whether you meet face to face or online. A wise person can seperate wierdos or fake christians after a short time, and then if YOU are strong, you discontinue the relationship. You can meet someone at a convention and have a terrible relationship, and meet someone online and have a terrific one, and vice versa. You have to use discernment no matter what. The internet has just opened up another avenue thats not good or bad. It just offers more opportunity. And if you are shy, or if there are slim pickings at your hall, why not broaden out and find others that share your faith? Either way, you can REALLY get to know someone online or face to face. It doesnt matter how you meet. It comes down to your spiritual maturity in the end regardless of who you meet and marry. I do think that it takes time to know someone and THATS the only importance. Then use your God given powers of reason before you commit. End of story.
I am an inactive brother who sought a wife on JW match. We are married and happy...except she was disfellowshipped because they warned her to avoid meeting people on the net...and she did so anyway showing an "unrepentant attitude". She appealed the decision but to no avail. This wonderful sister who has made me so happy is now being shunned by all her family and all her friends. However the crazy part is "I" was not disfellowshipped because I am inactive. Can anyone tell me how this makes sense? If anything has stumbled me it is this scenario. She is so depressed over this yet still believes it was "Jehovah's will", and wants to remain faithful to the organization. I am lovingly encourging her to remain faithful to Jehovah and to recognize the organization is just an imperfect "club" with imperfect sinners like her and I running the outfit. We ALL will be judged for what we do or do NOT do...by JESUS. (based on our heart condition not our status in the organization).
Date: August 4,2004 Time: 18:00 p.m. I peronally feel that are some pro's and con's to Jehovah's witnesses using online dating and Singles match-up services. . .
Well, when I was a jw, I wanted to talk with all people,not just them. But,it is interesting that they are ,making sites out of need,even though the org says no! They are actually seeing that the org is not recognizing their needs! Maybe they will notice the org isn't caring about alot of other normal needs as well! Hope so!
I was never leery of sites such as Jw-connections,etc. Those that ask for info that only a JW or those associated with would have to give. I knew my son would know in time if the sister or sisters he talked to were spiritually-minded or not. I have seen many marry out of the truth which is worse because when you are young it is hard to not want companionship especially if you are in a congregation that has hardly any young people. Anyway, he met a nice young sister and they have are going to get engaged in October 2004. They talked for hours on the phone also. If you meet someone at the assemblies or conventions, they are really not known to you either. I say let the mture young people use their bible-trained consciences. After all we are suppose to have love for the entire association of brothers, and intense love for one another, therefore, how could any brother or sister be a stranger to us then? You will know if they are spiritual by the way they talk, dress, their interests,etc. You can decide right away and always pray to Jehovah to help you make the right decisions...Sister in GA
Tell me the difference, ok? I know brothers and sisters that date and the elders and their parents don't have any problem with it and yet these same ones I have seen at the movies, restaurants, etc. doing very inapropriate things, especially in the small town I live in. If you are talking to someone online how can you get in trouble that way? Many a young sister has ended up pregnant in my congregation! I think mature young people know when some brother or sister is spiritually-minded or not. It is hard to be young and who has the time to go miles to other KHs? Companionship with our own age group is what we all need also, if this isn't true then why did Jehovah make Adam a mate? It is easy to tell a young person not to do something but what did that older person do when they were young??? I agree with the Sister from GA-We are to love the whole association of brothers!!!!!!Then how could we be strangers?????
I atended the "walk with God" district convention in july. If you had been listening to the material being discussed you would have heard the speaker tell you that the society definatly DO NOT condone such sites! I am a single brother who wouldnt mind meting someone because i think that i'm ready. but as the talk given at the convention comes directly from the faithful and discreet slave(u remember..jehovahs represenative here on earth)i will NOT be looking for a girlfriend on the net! remember...Jehovah is ALWAYS right..whatever direction he gives thru his faithful slave class dont question it just do it. he knows what is best for us and he knows ALL of satans traps!
Finally some freedom from elders completely tracking all of your activites until they start an Internet Security Comittee! If this helps more people in the organization to "have a life" and potentially break away from the mind control of the organization, then more power to them! I hope that confused Witnesses are able to meet good people on these sites who can show them why "The Truth" is so full of lies and that they can lead happy lives again.
I think it's great. One can at their own speed learn about other sisters/brothers who sincerely want a friend or fuure spouse
well i just started studying i was going out with a jw for a yr and a half and we were talking about getting married and having kids so we broke up and i started my study since then i have heard and learned that jw's strongly discourage internet dating but when i was at the convention it was like this huge dating convention everyone was connecting and trying to find their soul mate so to me whats the difference the convention or internet?
JW's have a notoriously difficult time finding suitable partners due to the limited numberin their area, causing many to settle for someone who they might not have if other choices were available. JW dating sites are a great way for JW singles to meet prospective partners. I expect the Watchtower Society to shun such services in an attempt to keep close watch on its members activities. I think the rank and file will however, continue to seek out such web sites regardless.
HAVE ALSO CHECK OUT SOME OF THESE SITES LIKE JW CONNECTIONS WHICH HAVE BEGUN TO CHARGE A FEE. THESE FOLKS ARE PUTTING MEMBERS THRU A BACKGROUND CHECK WHICH REALLY IS A BIG TIME INVASION OF PRIVACY. JOIN THIS SITE AND WHO KNOWS WHO WILL END UP WITH YOUR PERSONAL INFO INCLUDING YOU HOME ADDRESS AND SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. WITNESSES JUST CAN'T BE THAT DUM OR DESPERATE. OF ALL THE SITES, PARTNERS IN THE TRUTH.COM SEEMS TO BE THE MOST HONEST AND STRAIGHT FORWARD. IT'S A IDEA WHICH WILL PROBABLY GROW IN THE FUTURE SINCE WITNESSES NEED THIS KIND OF HELP TO FIND PARTNERS...
A prime example why NOT to use J.W. Dating sites, is like on this site, People claim to be Jehovah's Witnesses. First of all I am ONE of Jehovah's Witnesses, not a Jehovah's witnesses, as a supposedly witness of 30 years said. Just because you are baptized and come to the meetings does not mean you are one of Jehovah's Witnesses... Are people that desperate that would date a complete stranger over the internet? I would rather stay single, then take that chance of marrying a crazy person who claims to be whatever he/she isn't! We all hear of psychos on the internet in any type of chat room. I am 30 years old my husband has been an elder for 2 years now (he is 29) and he never spys, or follows anyone around, peeps in windows, or is he deprived sexually, or any other of the stupid things people claim "all" the elders do. He uses the bible and works very hard serving Jehovah and does it out of deep love for the brothers and sisters and for Jehovah. He Hates when he has to deal with anyone who commits sins, it is heartwrenching for him to see ones leave the truth and when he helps ones who struggle. He never goes "searching" for people who are commiting sins" Jehovah wants them to come back freely themselves. Elders are not Police. Of course like any group of people, Jehovah's Witnesses are imperfect, as the whole world is... And you will find ones, even Elders who do things wrong, but that does not mean the whole orginization is bad, it means that person has a spiritual problem and it will be taken care of in due time if not right away. Jehovah wants a clean orginization. What other religion is like that?? Just think what the United States would be like without "Police"....
Dear Sir this is somehow nice,but there are dangers too because people will download information and claim to be witnesses,but if there is a way that can help witnesses to chart with thier fellow brothers nor sisters in any part of the world,it is not wrong, because we all want to ask or speak with our brothers in other part of the world,but it should not be on dating issue or for young ones alone but for all age group and skin colour,but if any discouse anything other than spiritual things that is the person cup-of-tea.May Jehovah keep on safeguading us in this critical world. Thanks Your faithfully GODWIN ANIETIE JONES
I've been known to be somewhat of an expert in the field of dating. Here's my take on internet dating: It's just another method of meeting people of the opposite sex. I've personally tried dating sites, and honestly, I've found it more difficult to meet people on these sites rather than going out in public and meeting people. The problem with internet dating is you lose some things that are essential when it comes to attraction such as body language, voice tone, and human touch. The only thing you're left to work with is words. When you meet people face to face, you have all of what I mentioned available to use when it comes to attracting a member of the opposite sex. I studied with the JWs for 13 years. The problem that I see in the JW community is they have isolated themselves from the rest of the world. Therefore, the selection available is limited. Another problem is what JWs are trained to look for when it comes to selecting a "mate". The major quality a JW looks for when selecting a mate is how spiritually strong the other person is. The strength of someone's spirituality doesn't cause people to be attracted to each other. For men, it's all about looks. For women, it's all about personality. The bible actually proves this to be true. Women are naturally attracted to men who have direction in their lives, have confidence in themselves, and seem a little mysterious. Men like women with a pretty face and nice curves. Anyway, with the limited selection that JWs have to work with, and no means to relieve themselves sexually (no masturbation, pre-marital sex), they are forced to look for alternatives such as dating outside of their faith or online dating sites. I personally think one that is specifically meant for JWs is a good idea. They're able to broaden their available resources without going outside of their faith. As for the issue of dating for the sole purpose of marriage, I'm against it. JWs should be allowed to experiment, go on many dates, and discover what qualities they like and don't like in the opposite sex. Just for the record, when I was 15 years old and studying, I dated another girl who was studying. Our relationship was discovered, and a full investigation by OTHER members of the congregations involved took place. It was incredibly embarassing and demeaning. Just because I wasn't "mature", I didn't see any reason not to find out what I like in a woman. From that point, I knew I didn't want to marry a JW. I quit studying when I was 18. I'm now married to a wonderful non-jw who respects me, and loves me. The "other side of the fence" isn't bad if you work at making it good.
I personally feel they are ok as long as the brother & sister be cautious and know there are dangers online and they need to ask Pleanty of Questions to find out for sure the person knows there stuff and also is good to get Phone Number of the kingdom hall and a persons name of a brother you can talk to to see if that person is known in the hall !
CLOSED DISCUSSION 9/14/04
im a former jw i think they would not aprove
Its so hard to find anyone...regardless of what religion one is...Me associating with them, it seems to me most women want an Elder, or Overseer...and so many are faithful who are looked over. Like me...single..well to do...been alone for 5 years..i am really considering joining one..just to have someone to talk to.
Well along came computers, and you can add voice and a cam and you can't really be hiding, it's just another form of communication using the best technology, but dating should include some form of recreation other than playing checkers :) Oh the Q is JW's using a pc to get a date... Well they are not Amish ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well I'm an ex- JW Elder, spent my whole life in the truth, had some personal conflicts with my own relationship with the 'big guy'. I am a very fun loving out going person and thought it would be easy out here. I don't want to go back ever. I regret losing a wonderful wife in the process due the tight box thinking. But it is so hard once you've been a witness to function like a normal person. It's like you wear some kind of sign regardless of how you are living your life. So I would love some avenue to meet someone with a similar background, and I think there may be half a chance to survive and find a life again.
Well isn't it wonderful to have freedom of speach. I scrolled down this page and read quite a few of the comments about dating services for witnesses. Having been in the truth now for over 20 years what i've learnt is that there always needs to be a balance with everything we do. Some in the truth seem to go to extreams with regimented ideas. However what it comes down to in regards to whether one uses a web dating service is this we are all accountable for our own actions going onto a dating service is not a sin as far as i am awhere of it is a conscience matter and one is entitled to choose for themself it is not for me or anyone else to judge any brother or sister that would use a site like that. Having said that i can also understand why the Governing Body would be concerned with the use of a dating service i don't think they are saying not to use it however they are simply saying to be careful just as you would be careful when you cross a roadway you always first stop and look to the right then look to the left then cross if the way is clear. Take care everybody and i hope you meet someone that you will be happy with Regards josh